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Originally Posted by NoahSD
OK. So I was supposed to leave for my b-day dinner like 10 mins ago. I haven't showered yet or eaten all day. This is rushed.
I just talked to JM's publicist. JM lied to us in the interview, and he wants to talk to me (and I assume vanessa too, although I forgot to clarify that on the phone) again to clarify. I agreed not to publish the current version of the interview until he has a chance to explain what he lied about. (I assume nobody wants to read an interview that's full of lies anyway.) As a result, the interview will not be going up tomorrow. I haven't had a chance to hash out all the details and **** about whether it will be audio or transcribed audio or text or when it will be, so I don't know when it will go up.
I am going to shower. Then I am going to go to dinner. Then I'm going to go out and have fun and drink things and stuff and try not to think about this cluster****, but I'll probably fail at that. But, regardless, I ain't gonna be posting about this crap on 2p2 for a while or something.
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Pshhhh I was going to tell you I lied, thanks for making me look worse? The interview is not 'full of lies' as you say--there was only one thing I lied about, promise and it has a sort of reasonable explanation even though lieing is bad... I admit it was wrong and felt guilty for it for a while including during the interview. Also I talked to Haseeb and Haseeb talked to Jose apparently, so I have more thorough explanations for a couple of questions that I didnt really know the answers to. Should i just post here or just wait?
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tommyhawkers
JM: Sup mr publicist
PUB: yo how'd the interview, what all lies did we make?
JM: Well i lied about this, this, this and that, this one is kinda blurry, and then this
PUB: Well yeah thats fine, thats fine, hmmm idk about that one, OH **** we have to go on immediately and say that was your Lock account, not haseeb's, Lock support might actually help out here! and hmm this and this is fine too.. **** **** **** i knew we shouldn't have letten Haseeb take that much of the fall
JM: Cool, I'll hit up NoahSD and let him know about our little "transgression" hehe
PUB: lol yeah, i guess all the rest should be fine, hopefully we don't have to change that and that
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kjemmy:
I'm speaking with Jose on the phone now. He says someone hacked his email and somehow got stuff me and Jose spoke about on the phone (info Jose had written down), hacked Jose's Facebook and made me believe it was him. The guy who was on Jose's Facebook somehow knew stuff no one else but Jose should know about (scam amounts, bank accounts etc etc etc), but it makes sense if he got a ton of info from Jose's email.
I'm speaking with him on the phone as I type this
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Due to the guest in this Hot Seat interview being involved in a large scam, Pokerstatic has removed the interview as to see to it that we do not promote his celebrity, nor give off the impression to others that he is someone that should be trusted in the poker community.
Цитатада, верно. была неточность в моём посте.
поправлю лишь, что интервью наверняка появится
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lwrunner103:
Unbearable for me to listen to. Almost painful for me to listen to.
1. Haseeb received money to lie and take some of the heat off of Daniel.
2. Daniel was so far influenced by Haseeb's lies that Daniel himself was brainwashed by Haseeb's plan.
3. Haseeb partially freerolled me on the running bet and the only reason i got paid was because Daniel thought that he needed to pay Haseeb's debt to me so that his manager, agent, good friend, would stick around and Daniel would flourish with him around.
4. Haseeb definitely built his relationship with Daniel to make money, leech off an easy spot. Haseeb is in massive debt to Jungleman and to my knowledge Daniel has paid $100k for Haseeb to stick around and "help lead the way."
5. Daniel is not a bad person. He's spent the past year with a sociopath who has lied, cheated, manipulated the truth for his own gain and notoriety. Evidence of this is when he wrote of being totally soul crushed after the Isildur loss in 2009 and the running bet in 2011, both of which he lost a minimal amount of money in.
6. Daniel was certainly instructed by Haseeb on how to act in this scandal. Of course, that advice was not in Daniel's best interest. Daniel's publicist is a complete joke. Just another example of Daniel not understanding how to handle the scandal.
7. He surrounded himself with the wrong person at the wrong point in his career and he became a mostly a victim in the grand scheme of things and inadvertently did some things that he should not have done.
I feel every negative emotion there is to feel about this situation. I doubt there was much I could have done because I too thought that Haseeb was trustworthy. Daniel is someone that we can trust, he needs to surround himself with good people though.
Цитата (pogran @ 12.8.2011)
4) Хасиб подружился с Даниэлем только из-за денег, присосался к их лёгкому источнику. Хасиб находится в огромном денежном долге к нему, и, насколько я знаю, Даниэль заплатил Хасибу $100K, чтобы тот находился рядом и "помогал находить дорогу".7) Он находился под влиянием плохого человека в важной точке его карьеры, и, в большинстве, является жертвой в общей схеме вещей и непреднамеренно сделал некоторые вещи, которые он не должен был делать.
Кейтс топ- рег и чел. хороший,но слабохарактерныйййййй,судя по посту Эштона.Где большие бабки всегда рядом верные друзья,готовые помочь их потратить."Про находить дорогу"-убило)
Цитата (Trigand @ 13.8.2011)
читал давно интервью Кейтса тоже сложилось впечатления,что дико мягкотелый какой-то и неувереный в себе социопат,еще очень удивился,что он таких высот добился с таким характером
Цитата (Shatkhi @ 13.8.2011)
ПС. Джанглмена параллельно обвиняют в том что он играл с акков WCGRider, когда они жили вместе (апсвинги на графиках)
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/WCG|Rider (http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/WCG%7CRider)
http://www.pokertableratings.com/fulltilt-player-search/WCGRider
ППС. В треде ХСНЛ начал отписываться Дуррр
Цитата (JimBeam @ 27.02.2011)
Всё сыграно на нл1к против вцгРайдера и играл он на удивление сильно. Пожалуй вообще один из сложнейших оппов, с кем мне приходилось играть. Даже немного потерялся ближе к концу, хорошо, что смог убедить себя уйти).
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Эштон Гриффин: Мне было невыносимо сложно и больно слушать это интервью.1) Хасиб получил деньги, чтобы соврать и снять часть вины с Даниэля.
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i said something like 'hes not quite as good as he lets himself believe' and it hurt his ego rly bad so he texted me about 28 times.
Цитата (JimBeam @ 14.8.2011)
Вот это пи%дец), я в то время (прошлая зима) играл несколько матчей с Райдером на 1к-5к и удивлялся, что он то играет 2 стола и выходит через час, то готов играть сколько угодно столов и жёстко переигрывает меня. В старом блоге даже запись нашёл, после графика с проигрышем 10би за 2к рук в очень агро игре на 4х столах 5-10
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I would like to apologize to everyone that I’ve hurt because of this--the people that I multiaccounted against, the people that I lied to, and the people that I acted poorly towards. I feel like my response to this for the most part has largely been splitting hairs, getting angry at people, overall acting like an idiot when I should just take the responsibility and apologize. Well, here is my apology.
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You live in a funny world full of coincidences and forgetfulness.
Must hurt to always be the smartest person in the room.
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Lastly, one thing which has disturbed me is this episode with TylerSmith and Jungle. Jungle played TylerSmith on the Girah account and won some money from him. TylerSmith since contacted Jungle after Jungle confessed to playing on Girah’s account, and Jungle admitted to Tyler that he had played him. Tyler then proceeded to tell Jungle about how much of a hero he was and how people looked up to him, etc. TylerSmith then asked for all of his money back. Jungle said no, that was completely unreasonable, and offered coaching or some small amount of payment back. TylerSmith then threatened to post the text messages onto TwoPlusTwo to show how Jungle was acting. TylerSmith then proceeds to admit in the TwoPlusTwo thread that he had no idea who Girah was at all, and presumed he was some random fish.